Lew describes the two types of heroic and effective legislators: (1) The Advocate, who takes political risks to stand up for policies or views that other politicians refuse to touch (Example: Dr. Ron Paul); and (2) The Champion, who at great political risk takes a leadership position on an issue or bill, skillfully gathering support for it as they shepherd it through the process to victory. A prime example of “The Champion” type was Senator Pat McCarran of Nevada, who served from 1932-1954 in the Senate.
McCarran, a Democrat, led the fight to prevent the powerful Democrat President Franklin Roosevelt (FDR) from packing the Supreme Court in an attempt to take complete government control of the U.S. economy. After weathering an attempt by FDR to defeat him at the next election, McCarran spoke out against the American role in financing the Soviet Union, a byproduct of the U.S. entry into WWII.
After surviving another electoral challenge led by leftwing labor groups in 1944, McCarran became the Chairman of the powerful Judiciary Committee in the U.S. Senate, where he rammed through two critical legislative victories over the veto of President Harry Truman.
The first one required registration of all communist organizations in America. The second one was the massive immigration bill, the McCarran-Walter Act., that restricted immigration by both number and type, and screened applicants for communist or criminal ties.
That law, passed in 1952, would survive until until 1965, despite intense pressure from the Left and the administrations of Dwight D. Eisenhower and John F. Kennedy.
McCarran also initiated and chaired in the Senate Judiciary Committee the most wide-ranging and consequential of the anti-communist hearings in the Congress in 1951-52, with an assist from special guest Sen. Joseph McCarthy. This investigation was conducted against the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) affiliated Institute for Pacific Relations (IPR).
The probe led by McCarran exposed both agent-of-influence efforts to tilt U.S. policy toward the Communist Mao to allow his victory in China, and the actual theft of top secret government documents to aid the Chinese Reds. It also revealed the communist propaganda transmission belt from the Tax-Free Foundations to the universities that flowed through IPR, and the fact that the Institute’s academic magazine Amerasia had been edited by a member of the Communist Party-USA.
You can watch Hour of Decision on Rumble, at the NewsForAmerica channel. You can listen to Lew discuss the latest in election integrity news on SecureVote.News, at 11:15am Eastern on Tuesday mornings. His segment can also be heard live on K-Talk am 1640 in Salt Lake City.
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Look around you.
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Wrong rules the land while waiting justice sleeps.
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I saw in the congress
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and crossing the country,
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campaigning with Ron Paul.
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Tyranny
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rising,
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unspeakable
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evil,
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manifesting,
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devils lying about our heritage who want to
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enslave and replace us.
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But we are Americans
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with a manifest destiny
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to bring the new Jerusalem
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of endless
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possibilities.
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But first, this fight
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for freedom.
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Be a part of it. But don't delay
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because this is the hour of decision.
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Hour of decision with Lou Moore starts now.
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Welcome to the one hundred and eighth episode
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of hour of decision.
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My name is Lou Moore, and today, we
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are gonna talk about Pat McCarron,
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America first Democrat,
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patriot,
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and,
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a fighter, folks.
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A fighter all the way.
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And, senator McCarron came up in our conversations
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about the white David Eisenhower
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specifically
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when we discussed Eisenhower's,
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views on immigration
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because Eisenhower was a somewhat quiet but
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intense opponent
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of senator McCarran's landmark
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immigration bill that was passed in 1952
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over the veto
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of Harry s Truman,
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which created national origin quotas,
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which drastically
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limited legal immigration into the country
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and, had provisions to make sure that subversives,
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people
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with radical totalitarian
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ideologies,
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were not allowed into The United States.
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And, so that's what we kinda got into
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McCarran that way. I've also talked a little
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bit about Pat McCarran
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in my episodes where I touched on senator
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Joe McCarthy.
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And we will get back
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in just a minute
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into that whole story
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and senator McCarran's story fighting communism
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in the senate. But,
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I wanna use this episode not just to
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talk about a somewhat obscure now
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senator from, Nevada
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from, which at one time was a very
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small state. It's not quite so small now
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with Vegas having 2 people.
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But,
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I I wanna use the story of senator
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McCarran to talk about a few other things.
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Like, what are we looking for in a
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legislator?
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How should we,
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act toward our legislators?
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And, who should we be supporting
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in the legislative
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branch?
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Wanna talk a little bit about the parties
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and, who's a Republican, who's a Democrat, and
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why,
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going back in history, we've done some of
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that, the origins of the party system.
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And there's a lot of lies told about
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it. A lot of lies told by Republicans
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about the history of the party system. I
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mean, it's pretty clear where we're at now,
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with the Democrats going off the chart to
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the left
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and the Republican Party having an intermural
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fight between the corporate masters
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tools that have remained in the party, particularly
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in the house and the senate legislators.
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And, the America First movement,
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personified
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by and united around,
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generally united,
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around our president Donald Trump.
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But, so I wanna use you know, history
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tells can tell us so much
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about what's going on today. And, of course,
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everything that happened back in McCarran's time, which
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his time was,
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the first half of the twentieth century, and,
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he died in 1954.
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So he died, over seventy years ago. But
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everything that happened in his time, particularly the
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most consequential areas like immigration, like the communist
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fight,
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like his fight against the bureaucracy
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that we're gonna talk about in a minute.
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Those things continue,
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and and what happened then has led to
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what we are experiencing
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right now. So history is important,
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and I continue to go back to that.
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But I we're gonna kinda mix some history
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with a little bit of a talk about
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political tactics.
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Something I've touched on, in the previous episodes
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about legislators
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in particular,
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elected officials in general, legislators in particular.
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But we're gonna get back to that today
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because,
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we can,
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see the personification
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of what I've been trying to get across
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to you in terms of legislative
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champions,
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people we should really be supporting.
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We see the personification
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of that
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in the Democrat,
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Pat McCarron,
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the champion of Nevada,
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the senator from Nevada from 1932
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when he was first elected till he died
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in office
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in 1954.
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So there's really two kinds of legislators
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that are effective.
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The first kind is the advocate.
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The person who's willing to come out and
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say the things that need to be said
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on the floor of the senate, on the
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floor of the house, in the congressional record,
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in hearings,
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and then using their prestige
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to say these things. This is just about
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as important as as saying it on the
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floor of the senate or the house, saying
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things on in those areas
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around the country and sometimes around the world.
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And a premier legislative advocate,
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that I've known, that I work for,
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was doctor Ron Paul.
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He was not an effective legislator.
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You wouldn't go to doctor Paul and say,
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hey. Help me get this bill passed in
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the United States house.
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He would not be very effective at doing
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anything like that.
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But he was the one that warned us
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about the Federal Reserve. He was the one
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that was so prescient
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about the Middle East, about endless
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wars.
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He's the one that warned us about the
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World Trade Organization
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and mounted a fight
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on the floor of the house
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that was joined by my boss at that
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time, Jack Metcalfe,
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to prevent
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our entry into the World Trade Organization.
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Those are just three examples
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where Ron was an advocate,
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And he was an effective advocate because people
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built upon
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his advocacy,
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and,
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and that brought us, to Donald Trump. That's
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the thesis of my book forerunner,
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the unlikely role of Ron
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Paul. And, of course, Pat Buchanan also filled
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that role
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prior to doctor Paul.
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There's no Donald Trump without Pat Buchanan, but
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Pat Buchanan was not effective.
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He didn't win
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very many primaries running for president,
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but he enunciated
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an America first position that became the dominant
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position of the Republican Party and is
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pretty much
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the position that's held now by the most
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powerful man on earth.
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So whether they're elected legislators
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or not,
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policy advocates, elect
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or, legislative
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advocates,
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when they're fearless,
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when they're standing up against the powers that
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be,
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when they're taking risks, when they're saying the
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things that other politicians
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are afraid to say but need to be
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said,
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They are extremely effective
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and important and critical
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in that role.
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But the other role
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that we must have,
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if we're really going to make progress,
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is
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the
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legislative
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champion,
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the one who defies the odds and defies
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the powers that be and defies the news
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media
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and takes the message of that advocate that
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may have been delivered years and years before
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and turns it into law.
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And that is what we are talking about
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today
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with senator Pat McCarron
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from the state of Nevada.
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And,
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you know, there's
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I'm just gonna have to go here again,
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folks.
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There's too many organizations
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out
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there. There's too many
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smart people out there trying to help you
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out.
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Oh, you need to write your legislator and
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tell them this or that. I mean, there's
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nothing wrong with writing your legislator, but a
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lot of these groups are saying, when somebody
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votes for HR five,
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and we are all for HR five, we
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must praise that legislator and tell him how
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great he is.
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I mean, an example
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and I won't name the organization because it's
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one of my favorite organizations,
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but they just had representatives taking their picture
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with senator John Curtis of Utah because he
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voted for some of the bills that they
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identified in their legislative index as important bills,
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and he voted with them. And so they're
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giving him a big award, and they're getting
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him in all their publications,
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big picture of him.
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Folks,
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he's not with us.
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He may have taken some votes,
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which, you know, there's a whole dark art
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about the legislative
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world.
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You could take a vote.
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That doesn't mean nothing.
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Okay?
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That that thing may have failed the the
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thing might be failing no matter what or
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it might be passing no matter what. And
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so the fact that you voted for or,
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against
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in those situations,
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that doesn't necessarily
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mean anything.
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What means something is when you are willing
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to risk your career to advocate and fight
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for a piece of legislation
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that's critical,
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that is
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aiming at our corporate masters,
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that is a very courageous position to take,
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and you are effective
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enough and enough of a leader.
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And usually, it's a natural leader.
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There's not any one criteria
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for this
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position.
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You are enough of a natural leader to
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get other members of the legislature to also
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risk their careers and also take a step
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forward
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in progress
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with you
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to get something
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passed.
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That person
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is called a champion.
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If they are championing
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your position
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and risking all and are and being very
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effective
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behind the scenes
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or
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in advocacy
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in the press,
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in the public.
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Those people
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those people are who we need to have.
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That's the kind of person we need to
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have. We don't need the old okeydoke.
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Oh, I kinda just voted along with the
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caucus. You know, we got people at the
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State of the Union address. These Republicans, they
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stand up and cheer I mean, it it
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was almost aerobic exercise. They were standing up
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and cheering Trump so many times last night.
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And a whole lot of them
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spend most of the rest of their time
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stabbing him in the back. He can't even
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get recess appointments, folks, from his own party
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because they will not officially put the house
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or the senate in recess for him to
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do that. And yet, oh, they're cherry. They're
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cherry away. Yay. Yay.
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No. No.
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Not this performative crap. Don't get yeah. We
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may have to vote for these people. That's
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a whole another topic. The control of the
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house, the partisan control of the house, partisan
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control of the senate. We don't want the
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Democrats to take control again.
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But that doesn't mean you sit there and
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fall all over yourself praising these people when
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they say something or even if they take
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a vote
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that you like. I mean, these legislative indexes
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folks just gonna be blunt with you.
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They're almost all rigged
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on our side
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as well as on the other side. Now
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they may give you
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a pretty I good idea of where this
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person's coming from and whatnot,
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but they may not
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because of the dark art
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of the legislature.
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The deals that are made, the permissions that
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are given to take a certain vote to,
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target a certain constituency if you needed to
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get reelected and you talk to the leader
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and blah blah blah blah. It's when it's
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all on the line, folks, is when it
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counts.
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And that's when you know
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who's with you and who's not.
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And that's why,
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we,
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we have candidate
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schools who we, bring back, to Utah and,
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we support them all over the country.
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The foundation for,
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conservative leadership,
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applied conservative leadership, FACL, f a c l,
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fantastic organization.
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And in their training,
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which was the training that we used in
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the Ron Paul campaign in 2008, which is
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a, training that very successful
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legislative advocates have used before that,
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you don't praise somebody because they voted the
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way you wanted them to vote.
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You don't do that.
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You expect them
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to vote the way you want them to
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vote.
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You praise them, and then you do everything
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you can to help them. You get them
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money. You bleed for them when they're bleeding
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for you
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and for what you know needs to happen
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in the legislature
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on issues like,
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oh, election integrity. That would be one.
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So Pat McCarron
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was a champion. Now your champion,
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they may not
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vote with you all the time
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because there is a give and take
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in the legislature.
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I work for a man in Washington state
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by the name of Jack Metcalfe.
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Jack Metcalfe
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was a very conservative Republican, but Jack Metcalfe
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wanted to champion the issue of getting rid
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of this wretched
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Federal Reserve
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tyranny.
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Central bank tyranny over our lives.
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And he had a plan
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to put in a a a,
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res
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referendum, excuse me, on the ballot,
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getting the legislature to vote to put a
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referendum on the ballot in Washington state
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that would direct the attorney general who has
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instant access to the Supreme Court as an
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attorney general
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to question the constitutionality
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of the Federal Reserve to at least get
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that issue before the Supreme Court.
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And he was determined
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to move this forward in a Democrat
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legislature.
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So what did he do? He started making
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deals,
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and he took some votes that weren't very
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great.
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And his legislative
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index
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with the major conservative groups,
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one major conservative group in Washington State during
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that time was not that high. It was,
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like, 55%.
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Was it someone were 90%, 85%.
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But he was working in a determined fashion,
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not just on that issue, but primarily on
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that issue.
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As a champion
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of that issue, a critical core fundamental issue,
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now you could question his motives.
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I mean, you could question his tactics. Excuse
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me.
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I don't think you could really question his
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motives because he went to the wall
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for that issue. Someday, I'll tell the story
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of what happened
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on our decision. He had a
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he created a coalition with labor
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with labor
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in Washington state convinced the head of the
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labor council that the Federal Reserve was detrimental
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to labor, which it is.
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Amazing.
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I'll tell that story another day. Anyway, Pat
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McCarron was a champion.
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He was not a perfect
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legislator, not in my opinion.
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He took many votes. I would not agree
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with first of all, he was a Democrat.
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He supported Franklin Roosevelt and got first got
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elected with Roosevelt in 1932.
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Of course, Roosevelt ran,
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as a conservative. So that kinda muddied the
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waters right there, but McCarran continued to support
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the first part of the new deal.
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Generally,
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took a big pause over the recognition of
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the Soviet Union because he absolutely hated communist.
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But he took
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you know, he got in office,
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started building his power base,
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got on
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influential
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committees,
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and then he took Roosevelt on in the
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court packing. It was, when Roosevelt was trying
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to pack the Supreme Court
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and was one of the key leaders that
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brought that down. It prevented Roosevelt from packing
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the Supreme Court so he could roll over
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the top of America
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with his ultra socialist plan to take over
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the entire economy
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to the National Recovery Administration
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and the Agricultural
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Adjustment Administration. I talk about this at some
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length in my Roosevelt series,
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but the key to getting that done
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was the court packing,
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which, of course,
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failed,
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and McCarran had a lot to do with
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that failure. He was on the judiciary committee
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in the senate.
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But, unfortunately,
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the weasels on the Supreme Court,
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were intimidated
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and basically did not give Roosevelt a lot
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of trouble,
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you know, from the angle of, from court
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decisions
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after that. But, anyway, that's an example
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of somebody champing a very important issue,
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and that's what McCarran did.
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McCarran
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also passed the Administrative Procedures Act,
00:19:06
which was he called the bill of rights
00:19:09
for all those who are under the,
00:19:12
regulatory
00:19:13
rule of administrators
00:19:15
in the government.
00:19:16
Roosevelt and Truman had built all these agencies
00:19:19
and built and built and built the government,
00:19:21
and more and more people
00:19:23
were being held before administrative committees
00:19:27
and were being regulated out of their businesses
00:19:29
and didn't have any rights.
00:19:32
And,
00:19:34
this brought a level of transparency
00:19:36
and a
00:19:37
a level
00:19:39
of accountability
00:19:40
to the bureaucracy.
00:19:41
This was passed by Pat McCarron
00:19:44
in 1946.
00:19:47
And,
00:19:48
so McCarron, in the meantime,
00:19:51
was building a power base in Nevada.
00:19:55
And,
00:19:56
not all of it was nice, folks.
00:19:59
Politics in Nevada have not ever been nice
00:20:02
that I'm aware of.
00:20:03
But,
00:20:05
he was able to take Roosevelt on impacting
00:20:07
the court for trying to pack the court,
00:20:10
and then Roosevelt, a very powerful president,
00:20:13
tried to take him out
00:20:15
in 1938.
00:20:17
Tried to take him out.
00:20:19
And and the candidate Roosevelt ran against
00:20:24
Pat McCarron in the Democrat primary lost three
00:20:27
to one
00:20:29
with a lot of Republican crossovers, and you're
00:20:31
starting to see now
00:20:33
changes in the party system.
00:20:36
And,
00:20:37
you're beginning to, you know, you're beginning, particularly
00:20:40
after 1938, to see that coalition of more
00:20:42
conservative Democrats
00:20:44
with many of the Republicans
00:20:46
thwarting Franklin Roosevelt's
00:20:49
new deal objectives. The new deal, as I
00:20:51
said be I've said before, is basically over
00:20:54
after 1938, and Roosevelt had to pivot to
00:20:57
war.
00:20:59
But, McCarron
00:21:01
built this power base so he would not
00:21:04
even though Roosevelt was extremely popular and extremely
00:21:07
powerful,
00:21:08
not just as president, but but particularly in
00:21:10
the Democrat party,
00:21:12
but McCarron was able to build in
00:21:16
a level of independence because of the machine
00:21:18
he built in Nevada. And then in 1944,
00:21:20
the CIO,
00:21:23
the Congress of Industrial Organizations, which at that
00:21:26
time was basically one great big communist front.
00:21:29
It was most of the left wing unions
00:21:31
in the country
00:21:33
and headed by Walter Reuther, who I have
00:21:36
a whole episode on. If you go back
00:21:38
and look in my archives,
00:21:40
headed for many years by Walter Reuther, a
00:21:42
Fabian socialist and a world federalist
00:21:45
and a communist
00:21:47
earlier in his career.
00:21:49
These people tried to take
00:21:51
McCarran out. A plot was hatched in California
00:21:55
centered around Helen Gahagan
00:21:57
Douglas,
00:21:59
the woman that Nixon beat in 1950 for
00:22:01
the California for a California senate seat that
00:22:04
he called the pink lady,
00:22:07
mistress of Lyndon Baines Johnson.
00:22:10
And,
00:22:11
anyway, all these lefties plotted
00:22:15
with the national left and the Democrat party
00:22:17
to take McCarran out in '44 because, this
00:22:20
is during the war, McCarran was opposed to
00:22:22
our going into World War two because he
00:22:25
did not want to make any
00:22:27
kind of alliance
00:22:29
with the communist.
00:22:31
He was a very faithful religious Catholic.
00:22:35
The pope had actually,
00:22:37
passed or issued, I guess, the word is
00:22:40
an encyclical
00:22:42
just before the beginning of World War two
00:22:44
saying, no matter what, do not make an
00:22:46
alliance with these communists. And, boy, folks,
00:22:49
that was very good advice from the PONIF
00:22:51
at that time.
00:22:53
And McCarran,
00:22:55
absolutely
00:22:56
hated communism
00:22:58
and did not like Roosevelt's
00:23:02
New Deal,
00:23:05
applied welfare that he was now giving to
00:23:07
the Russians through Henry Wallace,
00:23:10
who I'm sure was a communist,
00:23:13
or excuse me, Harry Hopkins, not Harry Henry
00:23:16
Wallace, Henry Wallace.
00:23:17
Way off to the left is the vice
00:23:19
president. Another story.
00:23:20
Henry Hopkins,
00:23:24
was the administrator of the lend lease after
00:23:26
he was the big welfare administrator of the
00:23:29
New Deal.
00:23:30
McCarran was opposed to all of this,
00:23:32
spoke on the house floor against it, so
00:23:35
they tried to take him out
00:23:37
during the war in 1944,
00:23:39
but he had built this machine in Nevada
00:23:43
that bought him the independence that he could
00:23:45
continue
00:23:47
to speak his mind
00:23:48
and stay in office.
00:23:51
And so McCarran,
00:23:53
won in 1944, and then he became the
00:23:55
chairman
00:23:57
of the judiciary
00:23:59
committee.
00:24:00
One of the most powerful senators
00:24:02
ever
00:24:04
ever, folks,
00:24:06
and an America
00:24:08
first patriot.
00:24:10
And we are gonna talk more about senator
00:24:12
Pat McCarron,
00:24:14
about lessons we can learn from the history
00:24:16
of senator Pat McCarron
00:24:19
right after the news. You are listening to
00:24:22
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00:24:24
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00:24:28
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00:24:34
and I will talk to you in just
00:24:36
a few minutes to finish
00:24:38
about senator McCarron. Welcome back to Hour of
00:24:41
Decision. My name is Lou Moore. We've been
00:24:43
talking about senator Pat McCarron,
00:24:46
an America First Democrat
00:24:48
and champion
00:24:50
of key America First issues, a senator from
00:24:53
Nevada. And, folks, you know he's gotta be
00:24:55
pretty good
00:24:56
because when those George Floyd freaks were running
00:25:00
all over the country
00:25:01
with Antifa, and the left was going nuts
00:25:05
with DEI and all that stuff.
00:25:07
They stripped senator McCarran's name off of the
00:25:11
airport in Las Vegas. It was always called
00:25:13
McCarran Field and McCarran International Airport.
00:25:16
He was a leader in aviation issues. I'm
00:25:19
not even gonna get into that too much
00:25:20
today, but he actually passed a big civil
00:25:23
aeronautics
00:25:24
act.
00:25:25
It is his bill
00:25:27
that basically created the modern airline industry up
00:25:30
to date, not to mention,
00:25:32
you know, private aviation.
00:25:34
He was very big for that because he
00:25:36
knew it was key to Nevada.
00:25:38
But to bring Nevada into the picture,
00:25:41
aviation was critical because they were so far
00:25:43
out west.
00:25:44
So he was all about that,
00:25:46
and,
00:25:48
they stripped his name off the airport.
00:25:50
And, they gave they they named it and
00:25:53
now it's named after Harry Reid
00:25:55
who
00:25:57
Harry Reid took one lesson
00:25:59
from Pat McCarron
00:26:01
as he understood the power of a political
00:26:03
machine
00:26:04
and particularly of a political machine in Nevada.
00:26:07
And the most powerful political machine since the
00:26:10
McCarran
00:26:12
political organization was built,
00:26:15
is the one that Harry Reid built, but
00:26:17
his was nestier
00:26:18
and different
00:26:19
different I won't get into all that right
00:26:21
now. But, anyway,
00:26:22
so senator McCarran
00:26:25
trying to build a power base so he
00:26:28
could wield power in Washington DC so he
00:26:30
could pass key America first
00:26:33
legislation. He was a champion
00:26:36
of several issues. Not perfect.
00:26:39
Not perfect in his voting record.
00:26:41
Looking at his voting record here, he voted
00:26:44
for the UN Charter.
00:26:46
He supported president Truman
00:26:49
in 1948
00:26:50
against the weasel internationalist
00:26:52
Thomas Dewey,
00:26:54
the Republican.
00:26:57
And,
00:26:58
he voted
00:26:59
against the Taft Hartley bill,
00:27:02
that was put forward by my hero, Robert
00:27:04
Taft,
00:27:05
that created,
00:27:06
right to work states
00:27:08
and, whacked the powers of the unions. He
00:27:11
voted against that
00:27:13
as a Democrat,
00:27:15
but these were votes that he took. He
00:27:16
was not leaders. He was not a leader
00:27:20
on any of those particular issues,
00:27:23
but that gave him the chairmanship of the
00:27:26
judiciary
00:27:27
committee
00:27:28
so he could be a leader
00:27:30
in passing the Administrative Procedures Act that I
00:27:33
mentioned in 1946
00:27:36
and in passing one of the most consequential
00:27:38
pieces of legislation
00:27:40
to date
00:27:41
in 1950.
00:27:43
Yeah. Remember, folks, in 1950, I've talked about
00:27:46
this before,
00:27:48
America is going nuts over communism.
00:27:51
Half of Europe is now communist
00:27:54
after we fought the war
00:27:57
for the four freedoms
00:27:59
that was called World War two. Half of
00:28:01
Europe is now us in a slave state.
00:28:04
China
00:28:05
has fallen to the communist, the largest country
00:28:08
on Earth.
00:28:09
There's communist wars all over the globe.
00:28:12
And in 1950,
00:28:13
Russia announces
00:28:15
that it has the bomb.
00:28:17
And it got the bomb because of spies
00:28:21
at Los Alamos, New Mexico, and in other
00:28:23
parts of our atomic
00:28:26
development system
00:28:27
led by a for at least a former
00:28:29
communist, Robert Oppenheimer.
00:28:32
The Rosenbergs
00:28:33
fried over this, folks. Anyway,
00:28:35
this was the this was the era. This
00:28:38
was the background of senator Joe McCarthy's big
00:28:41
speech in Wheeling, West Virginia,
00:28:43
and it was the background for a major
00:28:45
piece of legislation
00:28:47
that was passed
00:28:49
by senator Pat McCarron
00:28:51
over the veto of Harry Truman. And this
00:28:54
is one of two big ones, folks, where
00:28:56
senator McCarran was able to get two thirds
00:28:59
of the senate
00:29:01
to override the veto of Harry Truman
00:29:04
to pass key America First legislation, and this
00:29:07
one is
00:29:08
the Insurrection
00:29:09
Act
00:29:10
or just the McCarran Act of 1950 that
00:29:13
said that all communist organizations
00:29:16
had to register
00:29:17
as enemies
00:29:18
of our state and as agents of a
00:29:21
foreign power, which they certainly were.
00:29:25
So that was a big one.
00:29:27
A big
00:29:28
legislative
00:29:29
check mark
00:29:31
passed by the chairman of the judiciary committee
00:29:34
who just happened to be an America First
00:29:37
Democrat by the name
00:29:39
of Pat McCarron.
00:29:41
So then in 1951,
00:29:45
after McCarthy was,
00:29:47
leading the charge and as I said in
00:29:49
my,
00:29:51
I I think it was in the, first,
00:29:53
it might have been the second of the
00:29:54
two episodes I just did on McCarthy versus
00:29:58
Eisenhower.
00:29:59
McCarthy didn't have power
00:30:02
until he got his own chairmanship once Ike
00:30:04
was elected,
00:30:06
and then they went to war. Before that,
00:30:08
McCarthy is just a backbencher. He's just bringing
00:30:11
things up. He's just making speeches,
00:30:13
calling attention to the fact
00:30:16
that a whole lot of work had been
00:30:18
done
00:30:19
that determined that there were hundreds of communists
00:30:22
in the US government, and some of them
00:30:24
were still in the US government by 1950
00:30:27
if they weren't over there at the UN
00:30:30
or in one of our tax free foundations
00:30:33
or in one of our state governments
00:30:35
in key positions.
00:30:37
So that was McCarthy's contribution,
00:30:39
but he didn't have any power.
00:30:43
But Pat McCarron
00:30:44
did.
00:30:45
And so in 1951,
00:30:48
and and the, in the judiciary committee
00:30:51
and the subcommittee on internal
00:30:53
security,
00:30:55
Pat McCarron
00:30:56
launches
00:30:57
the most consequential
00:30:59
investigation
00:31:00
ever
00:31:02
of communist,
00:31:04
activity in The United States,
00:31:08
which was his investigation
00:31:10
of the
00:31:11
Institute
00:31:12
of Pacific Relations, the IPR.
00:31:15
I've told you a little bit about the
00:31:17
IPR before.
00:31:18
And, the reason this is so consequential
00:31:21
I mean, some people would say that the
00:31:23
investigation of Alger Hiss
00:31:25
that Richard Nixon undertook in the House Committee
00:31:28
on Un American Activities in the in the
00:31:30
House rather than in the Senate
00:31:33
in 1948.
00:31:35
Some people might have said that was the
00:31:36
most consequential because it did eventually lead to
00:31:39
his going to prison
00:31:41
for committing perjury,
00:31:44
lying about his role as a communist.
00:31:47
But these hearings,
00:31:48
that,
00:31:49
McCarran
00:31:50
launched
00:31:52
in 1951
00:31:54
zeroed in on an organization
00:31:56
that was directly
00:31:57
tied to our powers that be to our
00:32:00
corporate masters, but also directly
00:32:03
tied to communist intelligence,
00:32:05
also directly tied to the tax free foundations.
00:32:09
It was a nexus
00:32:11
of the council on foreign relations,
00:32:13
the tax free foundations,
00:32:15
particularly
00:32:16
the Carnegie
00:32:17
Endowment for International
00:32:19
Peace,
00:32:20
the one that Dwight Eisenhower was on the
00:32:22
board of, that John Foster Dulles,
00:32:26
Ike's foreign policy guru,
00:32:28
was the chairman of, and that Alger Hiss,
00:32:32
who was convicted
00:32:33
as a perjurer and communist,
00:32:36
was the president of
00:32:38
they were very involved with this IPR,
00:32:42
and and then the government,
00:32:44
the state department
00:32:45
was very involved with this Institute for Pacific
00:32:48
Relations, which was supposed to be
00:32:51
an international
00:32:53
academic organization, kinda like the CFR, but,
00:32:57
focused on Asia,
00:32:59
on Pacific relations between United States and then
00:33:02
across The Pacific to Asia.
00:33:04
And what it really was was, like, three
00:33:07
things. It was a major
00:33:09
propaganda
00:33:10
mill for Mao Zedong
00:33:13
and polluted
00:33:14
all of the policy,
00:33:16
under the Roosevelt and Truman administrations
00:33:20
against
00:33:22
the nationalist leader of China, Chiang Kai shek,
00:33:25
our ally in World War two,
00:33:27
and tilted it toward
00:33:30
Mao,
00:33:31
the vicious communist that did not practically not
00:33:34
a thing against the Japanese in World War
00:33:37
two, but just by he just bid his
00:33:39
time
00:33:39
up there in the mountains to where he
00:33:41
could come down. But a ton of larges
00:33:43
from the Yalta
00:33:46
agreement that Roosevelt gave Stalin,
00:33:49
excuse me,
00:33:51
and take over the largest country
00:33:54
in the world. And people are asking, how
00:33:56
did this happen?
00:33:57
And so
00:33:58
all of the the influence of the Institute
00:34:01
of Pacific Relations in terms of
00:34:04
the academy
00:34:05
and what policymakers
00:34:07
were saying,
00:34:08
that was exposed.
00:34:11
The fact that they're interlaced with the government
00:34:13
and conferences that were being held with government
00:34:16
officials that they were putting on in Canada
00:34:19
and in The United States and other places,
00:34:22
that was exposed
00:34:25
as well as the fact
00:34:27
that there was a spy ring, a literal
00:34:30
spy ring
00:34:31
stealing
00:34:32
documents
00:34:34
and getting them to the communist from the
00:34:36
state department through
00:34:38
agents at the Institute of Pacific Relations.
00:34:43
And so,
00:34:44
McCarthy's on this committee,
00:34:47
but he has no power. But Pat McCarron
00:34:49
has power, and he is driving this investigation.
00:34:53
So this is a big difference
00:34:56
between what McCarthy was doing and what McCarran
00:34:59
is doing with subpoena power,
00:35:01
with the power of the chairmanship
00:35:03
of,
00:35:04
the second most powerful, I would say, committee
00:35:06
in the senate, the judiciary committee.
00:35:09
It's only eclipsed in power, I think, by
00:35:11
appropriations.
00:35:13
Another committee, Pat McCarran, was on. He wasn't
00:35:16
the chairman, but he was also on appropriations.
00:35:20
And so
00:35:21
they unearth
00:35:23
all of these terrible things going on at
00:35:26
IPR.
00:35:27
The fact that the, that their magazine, Amerasia,
00:35:31
that the editor of it for years, who
00:35:33
is also one of the largest donors to,
00:35:36
the, Institute for Pacific Relations,
00:35:39
was an upfront
00:35:40
communist
00:35:41
that also had a column
00:35:43
in the daily worker,
00:35:45
which was the New York based
00:35:48
flagship
00:35:49
newspaper of the Communist Party USA. That's Frederick
00:35:52
Vanderbilt
00:35:54
Field.
00:35:55
They had this spy ring around John Stewart's
00:35:58
service,
00:36:00
and we know they had that because,
00:36:05
Truman
00:36:07
is wiretapping
00:36:09
his attorney,
00:36:11
Thomas the cork Kirkorian.
00:36:13
Truman's wiretapping him for a completely different reason,
00:36:17
and they know exactly what they are doing.
00:36:19
The FBI has all the information, but it
00:36:21
was a rigged
00:36:23
trial that got him off,
00:36:27
John Stewart service,
00:36:29
for this espionage
00:36:30
charge.
00:36:32
And,
00:36:33
then there was the activities of Philip Jessup,
00:36:38
friend of Dwight Eisenhower and another board member
00:36:40
of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace who
00:36:43
was the president
00:36:46
of the Institute of Pacific Relations
00:36:49
while they had a communist editor of their
00:36:51
newspaper,
00:36:52
while they had a spy ring, and while
00:36:54
they had
00:36:55
so called intellectuals like Owen Lattimore
00:36:58
spreading nothing but pro communist information in the
00:37:02
guise of the top academic work
00:37:05
being, going on at that time,
00:37:09
across the academy and across
00:37:11
all the influential areas that, where,
00:37:15
foreign policy is created
00:37:18
and then is brought forward into the government
00:37:20
through the state department and through the White
00:37:22
House.
00:37:23
So all of these things are being covered
00:37:26
by Pat McCarron.
00:37:27
What McCarthy is bringing out, he is throwing
00:37:30
the bombs, but McCarron is driving this committee.
00:37:33
And they come to the conclusion
00:37:36
that there certainly was communist activity going on
00:37:40
with the IPR, that the IPR had everything
00:37:42
to do
00:37:43
with the fact that Marshall, general Marshall ended
00:37:46
up,
00:37:47
and he bragged about it,
00:37:49
disarm 37
00:37:51
divisions
00:37:51
of Chiang Kai shek's army cut off their
00:37:54
supplies,
00:37:56
allowing Mao Zedong a final victory over the
00:37:59
nationalists
00:38:00
that the state department produced a white paper
00:38:03
produced by Philip Jessup saying that Mao Zedong
00:38:06
was not too bad and Chiang Kai shek
00:38:07
was the worst person in the world.
00:38:11
The fact that Lorcan Curry from the White
00:38:13
House,
00:38:14
went with the vice president over to Asia
00:38:17
earlier on,
00:38:18
and all of these efforts
00:38:20
were subversive
00:38:22
to the nationalists. They held off. They had
00:38:24
a gold shipment that they were supposed to
00:38:26
receive. It was held off, held off, held
00:38:28
off by a lot of these same people,
00:38:30
and people at least influenced by the policy,
00:38:33
agents of influence,
00:38:35
tweaking our policy away
00:38:39
from a Christian
00:38:41
nationalist
00:38:42
Chinese leader who had a lot of flaws
00:38:44
and a lot of faults
00:38:46
toward
00:38:47
the most vicious
00:38:49
psychotic
00:38:50
leader ever
00:38:53
of any government in the history of mankind,
00:38:55
and I will stand by that one. Mao
00:38:57
Zedong
00:38:58
was psychotic.
00:39:00
He probably killed a 100
00:39:04
of his own people.
00:39:05
He destroyed their whole country. He gave chains
00:39:08
the balance of male and female I mean,
00:39:10
the the guy was unbelievable, folks.
00:39:12
Unbelievable
00:39:14
on every level.
00:39:17
And this was all aided by the activities,
00:39:20
the spy activities,
00:39:21
the academic activities,
00:39:24
and the agent of influence
00:39:26
activities connected to our government that were all
00:39:28
centered
00:39:29
around this council on foreign relations
00:39:34
affiliate
00:39:35
called the Institute of Pacific Relations. So that
00:39:38
was all
00:39:40
brought to light and on the record. And
00:39:42
if we had had guts
00:39:44
in the Truman justice department,
00:39:46
there would have been accountability,
00:39:48
but there wasn't. And if we would had
00:39:50
guts in the Eisenhower administration, despite the fact
00:39:52
he promised he would clean up Washington
00:39:54
when he got there, we still didn't get
00:39:56
the accountability with with Eisenhower
00:39:59
either.
00:40:00
But these hearings lasted from 1951
00:40:02
into the election year of fifty two
00:40:05
and,
00:40:07
were a beautiful thing and a major
00:40:10
attempt and a major move against the communist.
00:40:13
So this is two folks,
00:40:15
two,
00:40:16
that are directly attributable
00:40:18
to the power and to the determined
00:40:21
determination of a America first champion, Pat McCarron.
00:40:24
The third one,
00:40:26
we brought up,
00:40:27
in the last Eisenhower episode,
00:40:30
which is the McCarron Walter Act,
00:40:33
which was the
00:40:34
the major
00:40:36
immigration
00:40:37
act. It took four years to produce, as
00:40:39
I said last, week.
00:40:42
It drastically,
00:40:44
restricted the amount of immigration into the country.
00:40:48
It demanded that the immigration into the country
00:40:51
re be reflective of the population
00:40:54
of our country in terms of ethnicity, in
00:40:56
terms of what they called national origin,
00:41:00
and that everyone that came into the country
00:41:02
would be screened
00:41:05
to make sure that no subversives or other
00:41:08
undesirables
00:41:10
entered the country, and there were a large
00:41:12
number of undesirables
00:41:14
trying to enter the country at that time.
00:41:18
That again
00:41:19
became law
00:41:21
because McCarran had the leadership
00:41:23
not to get it put together,
00:41:25
not just to get a vote for it,
00:41:27
not just to pass it in the senate,
00:41:30
but to pass it with two thirds of
00:41:32
the senate over the veto
00:41:35
of the president of The United
00:41:37
States,
00:41:38
Harry s Truman.
00:41:40
A major accomplishment
00:41:42
that Dwight Eisenhower immediately tried to begin to
00:41:45
unwind, and McCarran complained
00:41:48
about Eisenhower,
00:41:49
in his papers.
00:41:51
Not hard to find it, folks. Not hard
00:41:53
to find it. He knew Eisenhower was a
00:41:55
foe.
00:41:56
But at the same time,
00:41:58
McCarron again, I said, you know,
00:42:00
he's playing it. He's playing a power game.
00:42:04
He's trying to use his power and just
00:42:06
measured
00:42:08
certain
00:42:08
concentrated
00:42:09
activities.
00:42:11
So in 1952,
00:42:13
just as Joe McCarthy knew Eisenhower was gonna
00:42:15
win that election, so did Pat McCarron.
00:42:18
So Pat McCarron
00:42:19
makes a speech and said the candidate of
00:42:21
my party,
00:42:23
Adlai Stevenson,
00:42:24
he is a Fabian
00:42:26
socialist.
00:42:27
He's a Fabian. I can't support him.
00:42:30
And, of course, he was
00:42:32
terrible
00:42:33
off the charts to the left,
00:42:35
connected with a lot of communist in World
00:42:37
War two in the office of,
00:42:40
war information, I believe it was. I think
00:42:42
that's where Steve
00:42:43
Adlai Stevenson came out. No one ever accused
00:42:45
him of being a communist, but he was
00:42:47
very left adjacent
00:42:49
in his earlier career
00:42:51
before he became governor of Illinois,
00:42:53
and then he became Eisenhower's foe.
00:42:56
So McCarran just didn't didn't support either candidate,
00:42:59
but he knew Eisenhower was going to be
00:43:02
a foe. He was not happy
00:43:04
about Eisenhower being elected president,
00:43:07
and he knew he was gonna try to
00:43:09
unwind his immigration policy,
00:43:11
but that was not that didn't happen until
00:43:13
Lyndon Baines Johnson. So it did last for
00:43:17
'52
00:43:18
until,
00:43:19
1965,
00:43:20
his immigration
00:43:22
policy. So
00:43:25
this is what a legislative
00:43:26
champion does, folks.
00:43:28
This is what a legislative
00:43:30
champion
00:43:31
does.
00:43:33
They get it done.
00:43:36
McCarron was a populist.
00:43:38
McCarron
00:43:40
stood up for union workers who were being
00:43:42
taken advantage of in nineteen o seven
00:43:45
in a minor strike.
00:43:47
But then he opposed
00:43:49
the communist in the minor's union, and they
00:43:52
tried to take him out in 1944
00:43:54
with the Council of Industrial Organizations.
00:43:57
But
00:43:58
McCarran
00:43:59
didn't he was a a lawyer. He didn't
00:44:02
even go to law school, folks. He challenged
00:44:05
the bar
00:44:06
and within a few years became the chief
00:44:08
justice of the Nevada Supreme Court. This is
00:44:11
before
00:44:12
he began his career in Washington DC. He's
00:44:14
amazing
00:44:16
individual, and, of course, now he is totally
00:44:18
vilified.
00:44:19
He's totally vilified.
00:44:22
You know, he made some comments about organized
00:44:24
jury because every Jewish organization in America was
00:44:27
against his immigration bill,
00:44:30
and many Jewish organizations were very tied
00:44:34
to communists
00:44:36
and were tied to,
00:44:38
the,
00:44:38
Spanish Civil War where he was a big
00:44:41
supporter
00:44:42
of Francisco Franco,
00:44:44
as am I today, looking back in history,
00:44:47
the champion and savior of Spain
00:44:50
from communism.
00:44:52
And so, anyway, McCarran is vilified
00:44:56
in every conceivable way in the history books.
00:44:59
They stripped,
00:45:01
the name of the airport,
00:45:02
took it took that away from him.
00:45:05
So we know he was a pretty good
00:45:07
guy, ladies and gentlemen.
00:45:09
He was an America first
00:45:12
champion.
00:45:14
He opposed our entrance into World War two.
00:45:17
He fought Roosevelt
00:45:18
on the court packing
00:45:21
that that Roosevelt tried to do.
00:45:24
He is the first one to pass a
00:45:27
serious and passed it, folks. It became law.
00:45:30
A serious effort
00:45:33
to finally deal with all these communists
00:45:36
that had entered our government because of the
00:45:39
laxity and the,
00:45:41
pro communist nature
00:45:44
of Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his administration
00:45:47
and the fact that as a partisan Democrat,
00:45:50
Harry Truman
00:45:51
was not willing to change that situation.
00:45:55
He fought all of that
00:45:58
and passed
00:45:59
these major
00:46:01
pieces
00:46:02
of legislation.
00:46:06
He was a great man, ladies and gentlemen,
00:46:08
and he stood up for Nevada.
00:46:10
He was authentic.
00:46:12
That's what populists have to be. He stood
00:46:15
up. He stood there was an interest group
00:46:18
that owned 57%
00:46:19
of the banks, the Winfield
00:46:21
machine in Nevada
00:46:23
before he got elected to the senate. He
00:46:25
stood against them.
00:46:27
He stood for the people of Nevada. He
00:46:29
did a lot of things.
00:46:31
Took a lot of votes I wouldn't have
00:46:32
taken.
00:46:33
Did a lot of things I didn't lie.
00:46:35
I I wouldn't have liked one by one,
00:46:37
but that is not how we should be
00:46:39
evaluating these legislators.
00:46:42
We need to evaluate them on what they
00:46:44
actually
00:46:45
get done. What what what was the art
00:46:47
of the possible
00:46:49
during that time? And what is the art
00:46:50
of the possible today? You know, they say,
00:46:52
oh, well, we'd love to do this and
00:46:54
that, but it's just not possible.
00:46:55
Politics is the art of the possible.
00:46:57
We hear that all the time in
00:47:00
in the political
00:47:01
world, usually by people who don't have the
00:47:03
guts to
00:47:04
change
00:47:07
the the playing field, so the art of
00:47:09
the possible becomes a lot bigger
00:47:12
playing field. But this is what we've seen
00:47:14
with Donald Trump.
00:47:15
He's taught
00:47:17
the Republicans how to win
00:47:20
and how to go for the win
00:47:22
and imperfect of a vessel as he is.
00:47:26
But this is why I admire so much
00:47:30
the senator from Nevada,
00:47:32
senator Pat
00:47:34
McCarron. We're gonna get back to, we're gonna
00:47:37
be finishing up the Eisenhower series, but I
00:47:39
wanted to take this segue.
00:47:42
So to get you a little bit more
00:47:43
acquainted with somebody you might not have ever
00:47:45
heard of,
00:47:47
senator Pat McCarron. Gonna add a little postscript
00:47:50
here. Pat McCarron died
00:47:53
in 1954.
00:47:54
He died prior
00:47:57
to the censure of Joseph r McCarthy
00:48:00
by the US Senate, and it's been pointed
00:48:02
out that every single Democrat, including a lot
00:48:05
of conservative Democrats,
00:48:07
voted to censure McCarthy because of the pressure
00:48:10
of the venal
00:48:12
legislative leader by the name of Lyndon Baines
00:48:14
Johnson. The only exception
00:48:16
was JFK
00:48:18
because of his father's feelings for McCarthy.
00:48:21
JFK just made absolutely sure his back surgery
00:48:24
that he had to have would be scheduled
00:48:26
at a time that he couldn't take the
00:48:28
vote
00:48:29
against McCarthy.
00:48:30
But the question has, remained whether if McCarran
00:48:33
had lived,
00:48:35
would he have defended McCarthy? He often defended
00:48:38
him,
00:48:39
particularly in those IPR hearings that McCarthy was
00:48:42
in with McCarran,
00:48:44
and McCarran was a leadership type.
00:48:47
And there were a lot of conservative Democrats,
00:48:49
particularly from the South,
00:48:51
who knuckled under and voted for this censure
00:48:54
of McCarthy.
00:48:56
And a lot of people wonder
00:48:58
whether that would have been the case
00:49:00
if Pat McCarran would have lived, and we
00:49:02
won't know the answer to that.
00:49:05
My name is Lou Moore, and you are
00:49:06
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